Mr Rogers said he died in 2013 while he was executed for a five-year prison term for a storm of burglary.
"He would have been extremely proud," he says, holding a glass that says "Create your own magic." "God bless her, she lived at 92."
Mr. Rogers has a public housing apartment, but for many reasons he chooses to be homeless.
He says he has been imprisoned for two decades and has a long history of drug use.
"We did not have good experiences with the police," he says.
But Friday night when he saw two police officers trying to resist a man now known as terrorist Hassan Khalif Shire Ali, Mr. Rogers did not hesitate.
He captured an empty stroller and tried to push him into Shire Ali, who was trying to attack the officers.
"It was an impulse of the moment," he says.
Mr. Rogers says he was sitting on a cigarette in front of Target, pulling a cigarette when a vehicle stopped beside him.
"The car stopped and I heard a lot of screaming and screaming," he says. "Initially, I thought the driver and the occupants were fighting. But when I saw people running and screaming, I realized it was more than an argument.
Mr. Rogers says he did not know that Shire Ali had a knife until he was under the police.
– He could have turned my attention on me with that knife.
Sergei Malaspina was killed in the attack on Pellegrini's side.
Rogue Patterson, a 58-year-old Tasmanian businessman and 24-year-old security guard at Hampton Park, have also been injured. Both were in a stable hospital condition on Sunday. Shire Ali died in the hospital after being shot by the police.
Mr. Rogers said he thinks Shire Ali was just Tasered. It was only until Saturday evening that he found out that he was shot and died later.
– He could have shot him in his leg. I think he should have been kept alive and sent to prison for 30 years.
Mr. Rogers says he grew up in Collingwood housing dwellings: "My mother had a dependence on Benzone and we used to steal his pills."
At age 14, he and his grandmother went to Highett, who was "the dearest lady," but said the children were different from the Collingwood children and struggled to adapt.
"I loved it very cute, but my problem was that I was already growing a little too fast." I was a little lost cause. "Problems came much more often than not.
During the Bourke Street attack on Friday, Mr. Rogers says a police officer lost his security glasses and a lanyard with a badge.
"I gave it to an officer directly, I would have kept this and done something with that. I did not even think about this line," says Rogers.
"I just wanted to help and do something for the first time in my life."
Donna Stolzenberg, founder and general manager of the homeless home college, says she has begun a fundraising campaign to help Mr Rogers, after several people have suggested him on social media.
"I thought she could get us $ 5,000," she says. On the evening of Sunday, more than 2,000 people donated nearly $ 70,000.
"I think the reason she did so well is that he is a typical Aussie hero who jumped for strangers," says Stolzenberg.
She says she is aware of Mr. Rogers's history of criminals and drugs and will work to connect him with homeless services and help them use money in ways that will not jeopardize him.
Mr. Rogers still feels overwhelmed.
"Are you the trolleybus?", A woman cried out of the apartment above us Age Take his picture.
"Everybody wanted a piece of me from colleague Bourke Street, it was phenomenal," he says.
Mr. Rogers gives his breath when asked how he will spend his money.
"To be honest, I do not know what to do," he says.
"There are 46 friends. I have to take my act together.
Jewel Topsfield is the national correspondent for The Age and Sydney Morning Herald, headquartered in Melbourne. He was previously Indonesia's correspondent. He has won several awards, including Walkley for International Journalism and the Lowy Institute Media Award.